stuey Have to agree,we were lifeless and ineffective and made it easy for Leeds who as you rightly said aren’t a good side, which was fortunate for us otherwise it would have been a cricket score. Not much to take that performance.
Pal of mine is a Rhinos fan, he only really watches them and was convinced we’d beat them he was telling me all week how crap they are.
He said they still are and they don’t rate Smith - but we were abject and he wasn’t being that guy gloating, he didn’t come away happy! I am away so was spared seeing it in any way, thankfully.
I concede I was way wrong with Leeds game. We were well out of the running. But there’s a few things that I took from the gane.
1- we need to get nasty and cheat a bit. Leeds were easy offside on the refs blindside and the only team he pinged for it was us. We need to put in lazy elbows, late hits and ref the game.
2- we got our first pro Cas reaction from the ref in the 54th minute. He gave them everything up to then.
3- they did not challenge the ball but the player when Hoy went up. Nothing given. Hoy even came down with the ball but the Leeds player put his knees into him and he dropped the ball. Got got no cover when going for these balls.
We were well beaten. Miller wasn’t fit but played due to macca injury. We looked busted. This week off is much needed.
Not sure a week off will make much difference.
You seen our next 3 games.
Sounds like Macca could be out a while.
Miller defiantly not fit.
Could have Lawler back.
Sadly our first 21 player squad, bar ⅔ are all average players, some are even championship players at best.
Lingard is hoping a full season in SL will make them into good SL players for 2025, I have my doubts.
I do find forums, etc. to read, particularly in relation to the latest result on the pitch.
I’m not sure cas fans are any beter/worse than others in te RL world but you we really are a bunck of knee-jerkers.
Any win, and the team is better, improving, on the right track.
Any defeat and it’s slash your wrists time.
Even the greatest sports times across the world took time to develop. Success does not occur overnight.
we were all aware that, by and large, this years squad contained a number of new players, namy untested at SL level. The Club even acknowledged tihis and advised of such. When you have a 3 year programme, you should really make final judgement after less than half of one of those years.
Yes, tyou monitor progress, and I for one believe we have seen some progress so far this season. However, there are bound to be setbacks along the way.
I still believe Martin Jepson’s input and approach is a significant positive for the Club and progress, on and off the field, will continue.
RaoulDuke Sadly all I took from the game was our deploarable attitude( Robb a notable exception)to be frank I made more effort getting up at 5a.m for an early flight back from Mallorca so I could make the game. Yes I probably need my bumps feeling but at least I turned up. And for Lingard afterwards to say we lacked motivation, jeez fella you might as well just paint a target on your back,you’re the coach,motivating the players is your bloody job!
Lingard interviews after a defeat is always the same.
He needs to give the lot of them a kick up the backside, instead of pussy footing around them like they are his mates.
We know this set of players arnt good enough for SL, but after a full season playing it, can we honestly say they will be next season.
Not sure myself.
Macca watts westy all well over 30.
Young un’s won’t be ready for ⅔ seasons
So this 3 year plan imo could turn into ⅘ years.
Maturecasfan They certainly need a rocket after that performance, I’ll forgive anything but lack of effort. Squad wise we’re short on quality and if you took Watts,Westerman and Macca out it would look really bleak. Take them out of the equation and I’d suggest only 8 of the current squad are or are capable of being Super League standard.I can’t help but wonder if Lingard and the boards willingness to write off this season has transmitted itself to the players,because some off them are playing like they’ve got a free ride. I sincerely hope some of them are unceremoniously dumped in the reserves for the next game and replaced by ones who will at least play with some pride. I’d be interested in what everyone’s take is on who they’d keep and who they’d let go.
From the squad for the Leeds game.
Players I’d release.
Hooley
Miller
Griffin
Hodson
Hoy
C hall.
Possible, not sure.
Watts
Macca
Putt
Keep.
Wood
I senior
El-zakham
Mellor
Westerman
Horne
Milnes
S hall
Namo
QQ
Robb
Hill.
That from last weeks squad, and just my opinion.
In todays Rugby League we could spend the cap plus marquee and still get dumped out of SL, The board are trying to ensure a SL place and the squad has to recruited to suit the money available.
Is it right for a professional sport to be run this way? NOT IN A BLOODY MILLION YEARS ITS NOT
We all knew this at the start of the season and in all honesty we are in a better place than i expected, but that is because a team with a concrete guarantee of SL dont give a f**k about results this term.
WHY ARE WE SURPRISED WHEN RESULTS LIKE THIS HAPPEN? WE HAVE PLASTIC SEATS TO POLISH NOW AND THAT HAS TO BE BETTER THAN A WINNING TEAM, DOESNT IT.
This is my last season darnt lane and if my games were not already pre paid I wouldnt even be going this year.
Rugby League under IMG bullcrap has lost its appeal and is now just a sporting entertainment like the wrestling instead of a truly competetive sport,
I will be watching from afar
CTID
FlatCapper spot on. One of the reasons I no longer frequent the other Cas forum. It’s generally full of negativity, even some of the sane ones are losing it.
I can accept that people have a view but it won’t change the club. Moan all they want but unless you can affect a change, go shout at the moon.
We’ve been told by the club we are rebuilding and it’s not a quick fix. It’s made harder by the fact we have to sort out the ground and that’s where the money has to go.
Interestingly, wilkin was moaning about hull building their team for the future in the knowledge they can’t be kicked out, they have the magic points. They aren’t concerned about coming last. We aren’t afforded the same luxury.
Hepworth you sitting have stayed in the sun and watched it out there. The away support isn’t coming anymore. Leeds took about 250 to saints away last weekend. The clubs are being strangled but the viewing figures are better.
pirate not going to Cas is actually playing into IMGs hands. They want eyes on screens not on terraces.
We should aim for selling out WR and no space for away support.
Cas fans will always turn up if they see effort on the field.
It’s always been like that for donkeys years.
To be fair I’m surprised the attendances we are still getting this season.
Some of the dross served up down lane this year as been abysmal.
Fans so far haven’t dropped off. We’ve had some good attendances.
Fans are doing their bit for the crazy IMG.
Would like to know our average so far, anyone know.
RaoulDuke
67 years old and living in Scarborough has limited my attendance anyway. IMG ruining the sport has left a sour taste in my mouth,
If London and Hull pick up and we finish bottom we should be relegated, I would go as far to say it would be embarrassing if we kept our place if that happened,
If London manage to get above Hull they should stay in SL on merit and Hull should go down.
Teams like Hudds and Salford are adding all the free tickets to their attendance figures.
Catchment areas are all Bo****ks as well.
The IMG script is just a charter for cheats
I WANT NO PART OF IT
I may be an old fart but i can see what is right and what is blatantly wrong.
I have the motorbike and fishing to fill my time
I will become that armchair fan if i can be bothered.
My support will be only in the form of the daily draw and the odd bit of merchandise
CTID, but the sport died before me
Maturecasfan Yup, we seem to be thinking along similar lines, I think the decision may be taken out of our hands with some of those,all gone very quiet re Hoy who I would sign despite the fact he’s shown at Hull and with us he can throw in a bad performance,he’s still our best full back option. Father Time and injuries catching up with Macca and Watts, who knows whether they can or would go round again. Whatever happens we need to do some serious business to be competitive.
pirate sometimes I go with gritted teeth to matches and sometimes I’ll be off before the end. I pay my season ticket and do as I please.
IMG isn’t the answer but I don’t think they are being asked the right questions. If it truly is about eyes on the game and getting more money for the clubs, then the salary cap needs to go. Let’s get big stars over here, raise the standards and then the sponsors will come and the tv deals.
For some reason they want to weaken the league just to get cities involved. Wakey have no professional football team and still can’t get a regular 6000 at games. That’s poor stuff by any means.
IMG got into the sport in 2022 on a 12 year deal. 2 years gone and we have a lower sky deal. 10 years to go and with sky ploughing everything into football, only a new broadcaster could help but bt sports (tnt), Premier, Amazon, Netflix etc aren’t interested. I could see the sport coming off sky and going free to air on BBC or other terrestrial channels for virtually nothing. We’ll end up with a highlights package once a week.
RaoulDuke
Just bought a Scarborough pirates shirt and can get my live RL fix on the coast, thats one less pro RL supporter for IMG to try and con
CTID
So far IMG have got us a lower sky deal. we have had to pay for our own big screen we have reduced our capacity by 1.300 by putting the seats in princess st to please img so we will not be able to get our usual 10.000 gates at the start of the season like we have the last few seasons how much will that have cost
I completely agree with the passage from RaoulDuke
I am not clear what we’re trying to create to be able to back or otherwise any strategy!?!?!
Said this so many times on the board of bickering; is the objective simply TV money and eyes on - say so?
Is it a more competitive game - say so.
Stronger international game, or expand participation?
Is it broader geography - say so.
say SOMETHING - SOMETHING CLEARLY - at the moment we have an unbalanced framework which is uncomfortable for a lot of clubs, not clear for supporters, damaging the competition in that it seems to be irrelevant what London, Us, Hull or in fact any team does on the pitch this season to next.
I would suspend some of my bias if I knew the greater good we’re trying to create, but I simply dont get it.
