RaoulDuke

Other than the potential impact on the overall SL season due to the possiblity of short-notice of cancelled games, I can’t fathom at all why they continue to get so much support from other bodies.

I agree that the Council shouldn’t bail them out. Not only is it an unneccesary financial burden during such difficult times, I find it morally wrong.

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    Your right but for some reason they justify closing other council services to keep a few thousand fans happy.

    As a team, like Huddersfield, they have been as good as they are likely to get and can’t get the crowds needed to survive , which Cas said was around 7k.

    Now off they had a Ken Davy it wouldn’t matter.

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    • Ppirate

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      RaoulDuke it worked for Wakefield a few times

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        So, with all the delaying tactics by Salford and the RFL, have we actually signed Ormondroyd?

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            It sounds like some clubs are shouting unfairness as they’ve no cap space and/or no quota spots and they have the money.

            From me it’s a sorry but maybe not spend all your money.

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              pirate No we haven’t signed him,no date for sales to commence has been given and Salford have reported they’ve received an offer to buy the club from overseas. That would obviously take time and apparently they need money now to pay wages due next Thursday. So we’re no nearer and no wiser as to when or if a sale needs to happen. Before any takeover there would have to be due diligence and obviously the legal paper which would take time they haven’t got. No way could I see anyone giving them bridging finance so selling a couple might just buy them enough time.

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              Surely the latest announcement from salford could be a delaying tactic. I hope to God that before te RFL agree further dlays, they’ve seen definitive evidence of a potential takeover.

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                Absolutely,I don’t think you can trust much coming out of Salford. If it’s true and they just need money to tide themselves over the easiest way would be to offload a couple of players.

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                  Let’s put it this way, I trust Salford as much as I trust Axiom! 😉

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                    Any offer will take time to filter through and then move in a new board and staff. I can’t see it being fine by the start of the season.

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                    Bridging loan from RFL????

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                        orrsome No financial or professional institution in their right mind would lend Salford money,as the RFL are neither it’s a distinct possibility,sets a dangerous precedent mind.

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                        The precedent was set when the RFL bailed out Bradford

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                        • RaoulDuke

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                          And refused to help others.

                          The super league had already authorised 500k, if they go pop that’s lost money

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                            Just been talking to a friend about the Salford situation and a point came up I can find an answer to.

                            Salford have a cap of 1.2m imposed on them by the rfl for the bridging forward of the 500k sky payment, they currently spend 2m.

                            They have to submit their squad to the rfl prior to their first competitive match which is Sunday in the challenge Cup. So if it has to be 1.2m, do they have to renegotiate with players to register them all or come Sunday are the players left out free agents?

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                              Ooh that’s an interesting one. I’m assuming Salford are still under the 1.2 million cap imposed on them it’s just the fire sale that’s on hold. As the cap comes into effect from the first competitive fixture they could only name a squad whose combined value is less than 1.2
                              million,so theoretically they could field a weakened squad for the cup match but this would only buy them a weeks grace unless they continue to field a weakened squad until the rumoured takeover happens when they might have the full cap restored. Can’t answer the free agent question,they’ll have players with legally binding contracts who they can’t play. Somethings got to give.

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                                Technically under normal circumstances the salary cap value only comes into play once the players appear in a ‘proper’ game. So if the deal hasn’t gone through by then then providing the team that Salford pick equals no more than £1.2 million then they haven’t actually breached the rules. That should be enough for them to beat league 1 Midlands you would have thought anyway so they could claim they are picking a side suitable for the game. They’d still have to pay the others but unless they miss those payments they aren’t breaching their contracts, as such they aren’t free to go.

                                The crunch would come the week after and the start of super league. They will need their best side out and by the rules should pick their strongest available team. That team would breach the sustainability cap. If the players aren’t registered by then they could claim restraint of trade and leave if they wish. But given they won’t have missed any wages until the end of the month at least then they may not automatically become free agents, however they would not be allowed to play. It would open up a can of worms.

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                                • RaoulDuke

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                                  It surely is a bag of worms. Very interesting.

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                                    I like the application of logic and the myth that there is any in Rugby League.

                                    For the ‘greater good’ I personally think that a club needs to crash on the rocks and sink, that’s not me having an issue with Salford per sé but the rules have almost no teeth at all.
                                    That being said we’re seen as somewhat shambolic and if we can, for the sake of a week, maintain the league then perhaps we should.

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                                      Can anyone imagine Cas being in this scenario, ignoring the rules and getting away almost scot free?
                                      No neither can I

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