Leeds

Hepworth

Just the one change in the squad for Saturday then, be interesting to see if Miller comes back into the side after we were decent against Hull. Plenty of pressure on Smith and the Rhinos after recent performances, be great to have a good first 20 again and really turn the screw.

RaoulDuke

It’s a free hit but should we win, we are in the running for an outside shot at the top half of the playoffs. Retaining Hoy would halo further with the feel good feeling.

Pat

Apparently we have had several injuries since the squad was named with 1 in hospital having scans and lingard does not know what the 17 will be

Maturecasfan

Pat

We don’t have much luck.

Hepworth

Looks like Macca if rumours are to be believed. Took my wife to see her first live game when we played London,she loved the experience,the atmosphere, and was astonished by the sounds of the contact when not sanitised by a TV camera, but she was transfixed by Macca, his fitness and constant involvement in the game and she was right,wherever the game was he was there. Robb and Horne are good players, with futures ahead of them but they’ll have to go some to reach his level. Sounds like I’m writing his epitaph, but far from it,hope he recovers, and quickly,ageing he may be but still a very special talent.

stuey

A dropped ball and a gift penalty and 12 points given away. They never had a sight of our line until then.

stuey

Garbage. Tex Hoy has had a shocker.and we have never had a sniff of scoring.

Matt

I don’t think we’re garbage. Clearly we’re struggling and the the injuries + unfit players on the field isn’t helping us at all.

stuey

Playing like we are today we will win 2 more matches this season.

stuey

That Martin try was a mile forward.
Hammered by a poor side.
You can maybe expect a score line like this against a good side, but Leeds are far from that.

Hepworth

stuey Have to agree,we were lifeless and ineffective and made it easy for Leeds who as you rightly said aren’t a good side, which was fortunate for us otherwise it would have been a cricket score. Not much to take that performance.

mdean

Pal of mine is a Rhinos fan, he only really watches them and was convinced we’d beat them he was telling me all week how crap they are.
He said they still are and they don’t rate Smith - but we were abject and he wasn’t being that guy gloating, he didn’t come away happy! I am away so was spared seeing it in any way, thankfully.

RaoulDuke

I concede I was way wrong with Leeds game. We were well out of the running. But there’s a few things that I took from the gane.

1- we need to get nasty and cheat a bit. Leeds were easy offside on the refs blindside and the only team he pinged for it was us. We need to put in lazy elbows, late hits and ref the game.

2- we got our first pro Cas reaction from the ref in the 54th minute. He gave them everything up to then.

3- they did not challenge the ball but the player when Hoy went up. Nothing given. Hoy even came down with the ball but the Leeds player put his knees into him and he dropped the ball. Got got no cover when going for these balls.

We were well beaten. Miller wasn’t fit but played due to macca injury. We looked busted. This week off is much needed.

Maturecasfan

RaoulDuke

Not sure a week off will make much difference.
You seen our next 3 games.
Sounds like Macca could be out a while.
Miller defiantly not fit.
Could have Lawler back.
Sadly our first 21 player squad, bar ⅔ are all average players, some are even championship players at best.
Lingard is hoping a full season in SL will make them into good SL players for 2025, I have my doubts.

Hepworth

RaoulDuke Sadly all I took from the game was our deploarable attitude( Robb a notable exception)to be frank I made more effort getting up at 5a.m for an early flight back from Mallorca so I could make the game. Yes I probably need my bumps feeling but at least I turned up. And for Lingard afterwards to say we lacked motivation, jeez fella you might as well just paint a target on your back,you’re the coach,motivating the players is your bloody job!

FlatCapper

I do find forums, etc. to read, particularly in relation to the latest result on the pitch.

I’m not sure cas fans are any beter/worse than others in te RL world but you we really are a bunck of knee-jerkers.

Any win, and the team is better, improving, on the right track.

Any defeat and it’s slash your wrists time.

Even the greatest sports times across the world took time to develop. Success does not occur overnight.

we were all aware that, by and large, this years squad contained a number of new players, namy untested at SL level. The Club even acknowledged tihis and advised of such. When you have a 3 year programme, you should really make final judgement after less than half of one of those years.

Yes, tyou monitor progress, and I for one believe we have seen some progress so far this season. However, there are bound to be setbacks along the way.

I still believe Martin Jepson’s input and approach is a significant positive for the Club and progress, on and off the field, will continue.

RaoulDuke

FlatCapper spot on. One of the reasons I no longer frequent the other Cas forum. It’s generally full of negativity, even some of the sane ones are losing it.

I can accept that people have a view but it won’t change the club. Moan all they want but unless you can affect a change, go shout at the moon.

We’ve been told by the club we are rebuilding and it’s not a quick fix. It’s made harder by the fact we have to sort out the ground and that’s where the money has to go.

Interestingly, wilkin was moaning about hull building their team for the future in the knowledge they can’t be kicked out, they have the magic points. They aren’t concerned about coming last. We aren’t afforded the same luxury.

RaoulDuke

Hepworth you sitting have stayed in the sun and watched it out there. The away support isn’t coming anymore. Leeds took about 250 to saints away last weekend. The clubs are being strangled but the viewing figures are better.

Maturecasfan

Lingard interviews after a defeat is always the same.
He needs to give the lot of them a kick up the backside, instead of pussy footing around them like they are his mates.

We know this set of players arnt good enough for SL, but after a full season playing it, can we honestly say they will be next season.
Not sure myself.
Macca watts westy all well over 30.
Young un’s won’t be ready for ⅔ seasons
So this 3 year plan imo could turn into ⅘ years.

Hepworth

Maturecasfan They certainly need a rocket after that performance, I’ll forgive anything but lack of effort. Squad wise we’re short on quality and if you took Watts,Westerman and Macca out it would look really bleak. Take them out of the equation and I’d suggest only 8 of the current squad are or are capable of being Super League standard.I can’t help but wonder if Lingard and the boards willingness to write off this season has transmitted itself to the players,because some off them are playing like they’ve got a free ride. I sincerely hope some of them are unceremoniously dumped in the reserves for the next game and replaced by ones who will at least play with some pride. I’d be interested in what everyone’s take is on who they’d keep and who they’d let go.

Maturecasfan

From the squad for the Leeds game.

Players I’d release.
Hooley
Miller
Griffin
Hodson
Hoy
C hall.

Possible, not sure.
Watts
Macca
Putt

Keep.
Wood
I senior
El-zakham
Mellor
Westerman
Horne
Milnes
S hall
Namo
QQ
Robb
Hill.

That from last weeks squad, and just my opinion.

Hepworth

Maturecasfan Yup, we seem to be thinking along similar lines, I think the decision may be taken out of our hands with some of those,all gone very quiet re Hoy who I would sign despite the fact he’s shown at Hull and with us he can throw in a bad performance,he’s still our best full back option. Father Time and injuries catching up with Macca and Watts, who knows whether they can or would go round again. Whatever happens we need to do some serious business to be competitive.

pirate

In todays Rugby League we could spend the cap plus marquee and still get dumped out of SL, The board are trying to ensure a SL place and the squad has to recruited to suit the money available.

Is it right for a professional sport to be run this way? NOT IN A BLOODY MILLION YEARS ITS NOT

We all knew this at the start of the season and in all honesty we are in a better place than i expected, but that is because a team with a concrete guarantee of SL dont give a f**k about results this term.

WHY ARE WE SURPRISED WHEN RESULTS LIKE THIS HAPPEN? WE HAVE PLASTIC SEATS TO POLISH NOW AND THAT HAS TO BE BETTER THAN A WINNING TEAM, DOESNT IT.

This is my last season darnt lane and if my games were not already pre paid I wouldnt even be going this year.
Rugby League under IMG bullcrap has lost its appeal and is now just a sporting entertainment like the wrestling instead of a truly competetive sport,

I will be watching from afar

CTID

RaoulDuke

pirate not going to Cas is actually playing into IMGs hands. They want eyes on screens not on terraces.

We should aim for selling out WR and no space for away support.